MINUTES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 6, 2007
City Hall,
Room 604
5:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Council President Chad Fradette, Council
Vice-President Chris Wery, Ald. Celestine Jeffreys, Ald. Jerry Wiezbiskie, Ald.
Tom Weber
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Ald.
John Vanderleest
OTHERS PRESENT: Ald. Tom De Wane, Ald. Andy Nicholson, Atty.
Jerry Hanson, John Rogers, Chad Weininger, Media
1. Call to order.
The meeting was called to
order by Chairman Chad Fradette at 5:35 p.m.
Ald. Tom DeWane was asked to sit in on the committee until Ald. Weber
arrived at 5:40 p.m.
2. Approval of the Agenda.
Motion made by Ald.
Jeffreys, seconded by Ald. De Wane to approve the agenda. Motion carried.
3. Approval of the Minutes of the September 18, 2006
meeting.
Motion made by Ald. De Wane,
seconded by Ald. Jeffreys to approve the minutes of the September 18, 2006
meeting as submitted. Motion carried.
4. Report by the City Attorney’s Office on a liaison
member participating in closed session.
Atty. Jerry Hanson referred
to a memo from Asst. Atty. Jon Nitti, which stated that liaison members can
vote and can participate in closed session, as long as the determination they
are making is not a final decision. He
stated that the liaison member cannot participate in a quasi judicial hearing. Ald. Fradette questioned then, that Sue
Robinson, the liaison member appointed to the Protection & Welfare
Committee is allowed to vote and to participate in closed session, as long as
it is not a quasi hearing? Atty. Hanson
confirmed this as being correct.
Motion made by Ald. Wery,
seconded by Ald. Jeffreys to receive and place on file the report by the City
Attorney’s Office on a liaison member participating in closed session. Motion carried.
5. Request by
Ald. Nicholson to review the Imperial Lane project.
Ald. Nicholson said he has
received updated information on four different options from the Planning
Department with respect to the Imperial Lane project. He shared the plans with the committee members and said he would
prefer the plan which would include making most of the rental unit buildings
disappear; he believed this was Option #3.
He said it will come down to choosing a plan and seeing what the cost
would be. Ald. Jeffreys questioned Ald.
Nicholson on his proposal for relocating the people that would otherwise be
residing in these units. Ald. Nicholson
said he needs to work this out with the Mayor’s Office.
Chad Weininger addressed the
committee at the request of Ald. Nicholson.
Chad W. apologized that a planner was not present as Rob Strong is ill
and Mr. Lockery is attending another meeting.
He stated there are a couple of options, depending on what type of funds
we use to purchase the properties . He
indicated that there have been a few developers who have talked with the Mayor and
Economic Development and said the Mayor wants to get someone interested in the
property, who has a plan. He said the
development could be anything from commercial business or a new development
with housing, and said Rob Strong could come to a future meeting and talk more
in depth about the options. Discussion
ensued about using donor TIF, with Chad W. responding that to fund a
development will take more than TIF money and said they do not have a cost
estimate on the plan options. Ald.
Nicholson questioned if the Mayor’s Office is marketing this area to
developers? Chad W. responded that the
Mayor and Economic Development discuss different sites when developers come in
said they do mention the Imperial Lane site for redevelopment. He indicated that the Mayor has talked to
three developers but it didn’t work out for this site. Ald. Weber said the fair market value of the
property is $10.2 million, adding that he didn’t believe a developer would pay
that kind of money.
Ald. Weber questioned with the
building of The Kroc Center, if that would that have a positive effect on the
neighborhood? Ald. Nicholson responded
that there are transient people living there who do not live there for many
years. He said the crimes still remain
and he doesn’t see how the Kroc Center would improve that problem, adding that
he would like to clean up the area for the Kroc Center. Ald. Jeffreys questioned what effect razing
the properties in question would have on the population of Eisenhower
School? Ald. Nicholson said he will
check and see how many students live in that area. The committee reviewed the sketches of the four options, with
Ald. Nicholson stating that he brought this forward for the committee to review
and give their input. It was agreed
that this area is too dense, is a fire hazard and needs to be thinned out. Chad W. asked if the committee would like
Rob Strong and the Planning Department to come back with a more formal
presentation that would include the cost for these options.
Motion made by Ald. Weber,
seconded by Ald. Wery to refer this item to staff for further information and
analysis and to present at the next Advisory Committee meeting. Motion carried.
6. Request by Ald. Wery to review the Parking Division
–examine revenue vs expenses and outsourcing if appropriate and examine the
policy of issuing warnings and use of discretionary power where applicable.
Ald. Wery asked that this
item be referred to staff, adding that he is working with staff on this item
and said they will see this at Traffic or Improvement & Service Committee
in the near future.
Motion made by Ald.
Jeffreys, seconded by Ald. Weber to refer Ald. Wery’s request to staff. Motion carried.
7. Request by Ald. Nicholson to review the Possibility
of having the City withdraw from the County 911 Communication Center and create
the City’s own communication center.
Ald. Nicholson requested to
postpone this item until the next meeting.
Ald. Jeffreys asked if discussion could be held since interim director
of the communication center, John Rogers was present. Ald. Weber inquired of Mr. Rogers what his opinion is on the city
having a separate 911 Communication Center?
Mr. Rogers responded that he believes it would be financially
irresponsible for the city to do this, adding that the outlay would be huge.
When asked for a report on
the present operation of the 911 Communication Center, Mr. Rogers responded
that initially there were problems with people being stressed out from working
too long of hours but said they are now up to full staff and said they improved
training. He stated that he has not had
any complaints in the five weeks that he has been interim director. He indicated that they worked out some
issues and streamlined some things. He
said there is always room for improvement and said some of their infrastructure
is 20-25 years old. He said they badly
need improvement in equipment adding that the radio reception in some parts of
the county is terrible. He stated that this has been worked on for two years
with an RFP being done. John said the center is under the County budget and
said they receive federal funding and this amount has been enhanced through a
grant for $764,000, since 9/11 and said this amount is being paid to the County
at $52,000 a quarter. He stated that
last year the center received 407,000 phone calls, with some of them being
duplicate calls (reporting the same accident, etc) with 68,000 being 911 calls
and198,000 ended up with dispatches.
Mr. Rogers said he sees
dedicated people who are doing a good job.
He indicated that he has met with Chief Jim Arts and encouraged him to
have his officers contact him if they have any problems. When asked for a cost estimate if the city
should break away from the county, Mr. Rogers said he would guess a little over
$5 million for the infrastructure alone plus the operating costs. He indicated that the county’s payroll is
about $2.5 million for the communication center. He stated that if the city were to cut off from the county, the
interoperability would still be there and said we had that before to a degree,
adding that Ashwaubenon has their own center and act as a back-up station for
the county. He said the outlying areas would remain with the county.
Ald. Nicholson asked Mr.
Rogers if he was familiar with the March, 2006 Public Safety Committee meeting
where officers documented complaints against the communication center and said
these problems are not going away? Mr.
Rogers said he is not familiar with what was discussed at this meeting, but
will review the minutes. Ald. Fradette
relayed issues of citizen complaints where the caller received rude response or
was almost accused of a crime when they called in to report a crime. He said there was a report of a long delay
before putting a call into the Police cue and one time the call never being
passed along. Mr. Rogers said there
were times when calls were getting stacked, sometimes at the request of the
officers because they didn’t want to leave their zone. He indicated that the Police Dept. came to
him with a proposal and said they wanted everything dispatched and said now
officers are being dispatched to calls outside of their zone if necessary, to
answer every call. He stated that this policy has been in place for three
weeks. He asked to have people call him
at 448-7610, if they are being treated rudely and said he will check into the
complaint. Ald. De Wane also relayed an
incident when he was on a ride-along with the Community Police Officer and a
girl called in because her boyfriend was trying to break into her car. He indicated that the police officer was a
block away from the incident, but the 911 call was held for 15 minutes and by
the time the officer received the call, the car had left.
Mr. Rogers said calls are
always prioritized and officers are asked to respond to a call in their
zone, if they are going to be freed up
in a few minutes. Mr. Rogers said stacking calls is not unique to Brown County,
adding that it happens in other cities as well. He said the County interacts with the City and gave the example
of the Drug Task Force where they work jointly and added that the Fire
Department is just as busy and responds to almost every incident as well. Ald. Weber said it would be ideal if we
could control the times people have accidents or emergencies and level out the
times of the calls, but said the only way we could fully satisfy the reaction
to police or fire calls is to virtually have a police officer on every corner
and a fire station on every other corner.
He said this would require our taxes to triple. Mr. Rogers said that Friday and Saturday
evenings are the peak times for calls and stated that the city took steps and
have extra Police in the downtown area and he assigned extra people at the
dispatch center at these times. He said
if they felt a need to call in more Police, they would contact the Police
commanders and let them decide.
Motion was made by Ald.
Wizbiskie, seconded by Ald. Wery to review the performance of the 911
Communication Center in three months.
Motion carried.
There being no further
business, a motion was made by Ald. Jeffreys, seconded by Ald. Weber to
adjourn. Motion carried. The meeting adjourned at 6:25 p.m.