MINUTES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, March 26, 2009
City Hall, Room 604
6:00 p.m.
MEMBERS
PRESENT: Council President Chris Wery,
Council Vice-President Tom DeWane, Ald. John VanderLeest, Ald. Tom Weber, Ald. Celestine Jeffreys, Ald. Jerry
Wiezbiskie, Ald. Andy Nicholson
Others
Present: Ald. Amy Kocha,
Ald. Dan Piton, Atty. Allison Swanson, Atty. Kail Decker, Scott Matejov, Chris
Phelps, Rob Strong, Chad Weininger, Krista Baeten,
Members of the Media
1.
Call to order.
The meeting
was called to order by Council President Ald. Chris Wery at 6:00 p.m. All members were present at the start of the
meeting with the exception of Ald. Nicholson, Ald. Jeffreys and Ald. Vanderleest, who all arrived shortly after the start of the
meeting.
2.
Approval of the agenda.
Motion made
by Ald. DeWane, second by Ald. Wiezbiskie to approve
the agenda. Motion carried.
3.
Approval of the minutes of the January
6, 2009 Advisory Committee meeting.
Motion made by Ald. De Wane, second by
Ald. Wiezbiskie to approve the minutes of the January 6, 2009 Advisory
Committee meeting. Motion carried.
4.
Request by Ald. Wiezbiskie to review
the successes, failures, improvements and procedures of the Sexual Offender
Residency Restrictions Ordinance and the Sex Offenders Residency Board.
Ald. Wiezbiskie said the brought this
forward because there were some rumbles in that committee and they were
experiencing some changes and said he has since had the opportunity to attend a
meeting of that committee and they are doing a great job. He stated that one change is that they no
longer have a Police Officer at their meetings and their hands are tied a bit
with the information they can get. He
would like to see a representative from that committee address the Advisory
Committee at a future meeting. He stated that he was against the Sex Offender
ordinance because it has been proven that if you enforce the rules too much, these people will go underground and disappear. He said there has been an appreciable number
which has increased as far as the number of people who have registered and said
we could look into this or maybe go as far as to abolish this ordinance and
said the ELC basically has the power and the information and are in control of
this and do a good job of that. He
suggested referring this item to the Law Dept. and pick
it up at another meeting to talk with a committee member.
Ald. Vanderleest
stated that he would like to see more information about the program and how it
works. He said he is supportive of the
ordinance and realizes there are some issues as to the information that can be
provided to the Board members and suggested having something documented in
writing relative to the information that can be provided for the Board members
and to give this information to the Board members. He indicated that the successes of this Board
have been outlined and would be in favor of having the Law Dept. document
processes and procedures of the Board and bring that information back. He supports keeping the Residency Board.
Ald. DeWane
stated that he is very much in favor of keeping this ordinance and said we need
to find a way to better monitor when whomever it is, male or female, is being
released. He stated that until we find a
better way to monitor this, we need to keep it the way it is. Ald. Weber stated he is in favor of
maintaining the Residence Board and said it was created because we felt there
was an inordinate number of releases into our community without justification. He suggested tweaking it and moving
forward. Ald. Wery recalled that this
item was referred to staff at a Protection & Welfare Committee, which will
be coming back to that committee in about four weeks. Ald. Nicholson said he requested to know the
amount of money that the city is spending on this and also review of a court
case in Waukesha where the ordinance was challenged. He said Atty. Wachewicz was going to look
into that and report back to Protection & Welfare.
Ald. Piton said a representative from
the Dept. of Corrections will be addressing the Sex Offender Residency Board
members at an upcoming meeting. Ald. Kocha said she is in favor of reviewing these issues and
inquired if this would happen at the next Council meeting? Ald. Wery responded that the timeline for
this is still under discussion.
Motion made by Ald. Wiezbiskie, second
by Ald. De Wane to refer to the Law Dept. to report on this item and to request
that a committee member from the Sex Offender Residency Board attend Advisory
Committee when this report is made.
Motion carried.
5.
Request by Ald. Nicholson to review
guidelines for Council meeting presentations.
Ald.
Nicholson inquired if there are any guidelines for presentations at City
Council meetings? Atty. Swanson
responded that there are no guidelines on presentations except to the extent
that it’s the Mayor’s agenda and he can put presentations on there, but no
guidelines as to the length of the presentation. Ald. Nicholson indicated that he brought this
item forward because of an incident that happened a couple of months ago,
adding that if a group or individual is presenting a gift to the city, we
should always show respect and courtesy to the public and/or the person who is
presenting the gift. He inquired if
there is a need to establish a policy or guidelines.
Ald. Weber
agrees with how Council members should treat their guests, etc. and believes
the intent was not as it initially came forward and was simply an error in
timing and judgment. He said we
generally have an issue at times with behavior on Council and said it’s a place
for the other Council members to rein themselves in. Ald. Wiezbiskie would like to see Council
members show more respect for each other adding that it’s embarrassing
sometimes to be a part of that body with the outbursts and childish behavior. He agrees with respect being shown at all
times and suggested putting a time restraint on the presenters. He added that what Ald. Nicholson is making
reference to, will probably not happen again but on the other hand they are all
entitled to their own actions. Ald. Vanderleest said the Mayor sets the agenda and he agrees
that respect should be shown to all presenters but does not feel the need to
set guidelines. He added that if we disagree, it must be done politely and
follow-up with the person after the meeting to have questions answered.
Motion made
by Ald. Vanderleest, second by Ald. Wiezbiskie to
receive and place on file.
Ald. Wery
agrees that the respect level needs to be raised toward everyone, including
staff, adding that he’d like Council to set a good example and said things
should be addressed immediately rather than let them fester. He indicated that the Mayor could use his
gavel a little more judiciously and said if he doesn’t,
it’s up to the Council members to speak up and address it, especially other
people’s behaviors.
A vote was
taken on the motion. Motion carried.
6.
Request by Ald. Wery to draft a
resolution encouraging the reclassification of US 41 to I-55.
A draft resolution by Derek Lord was
reviewed by Atty. Swanson since Derek was in attendance at another
meeting. She stated that the resolution
is what was drafted and approved by The New North and they have requested
everybody from Fond du Lac through Green Bay to approve a resolution such as
this. She stated that the state is looking
at renaming Hwy 41 to either I-55 or 241, adding that the benefits of renaming
it to I-55 would be that I-55 runs all the way to New Orleans and is better
known. She stated that this is being looked at as an economic development tool
and since the state is looking at changing it anyway, she believes I-55 would
be the better choice.
Ald. Weber stated that Hwy 41 runs
from Michigan to the tip of Florida and is a very old highway and inquired if
there is a way that part of the renaming could be I-55/Old Hwy 41 so we don’t
lose the connection to that old historic highway.
Motion made by Ald. Weber to rename
US41 to I-55/Old Hwy 41, second by Ald. DeWane.
Ald. VanderLeest
would not oppose adding this language and inquired where this would be
inserted. Atty. Swanson said she would
find somewhere and will underline it so they can see it clearly. Ald. Wiezbiskie is in favor of renaming to
I-55 and feels it may be too cumbersome to add reference to Old Hwy 41, asking
how it would appear on the map? Ald. Weber responded that it would be I-55 on
the map. Ald. Nicholson inquired how
renaming would be an economic Development tool?
Ald. Wery responded that the state is looking at renaming the road and
the city can support a preference. Atty. Swanson added that the name
recognition would be helpful adding that the city can support either option,
but the ultimate decision lies with the state.
A vote was taken on the motion. Motion carried.
7.
Request by Ald. Nicholson to develop a
policy on cell phone use during Council meetings.
Ald. Nicholson stated that he brought
this forward because of a recent incident where a Council member was using a
cell phone while another Council member had the floor. He felt this was rude and unprofessional and felt
if people don’t leave the room when they are on the cell phone, we may need to
have a policy put in place. Ald. Kocha stated that she is the Council member who used her
cell phone and this was due to calling a constituent to tell her that an item
that Ald. Kocha was going to hold over,
was actually on the floor for discussion. She apologized for this and said it
was a one-time necessary move. She does
not believe guidelines need to be established.
Ald. VanderLeest stated that from time to time
there may be an emergency when a Council member may need to make a call and
will go to the corner of the room. He said it’s up to the Mayor and committee
chairs to ask them to leave the room if they need to make a call. He does not
believe a policy is necessary. Ald. DeWane said a policy would be o.k. if we wanted to draft
something simple and said this was a weird day.
Ald. Wiezbiskie said it’s common sense to leave
the room if you need to make a call and does not see this happening again and
does not see the need to develop a policy.
Ald. Weber agrees with Ald. Wiezbiskie and said he uses his cell phone
to go to the web to verify information during a meeting.
Motion made by Ald. Vander Leest,
second by Ald. Wiezbiskie to receive and place on file. Motion carried.
8.
Request by Ald. Wery to draft a
resolution supporting the establishment of a Regional Transit Authority (RTA).
Motion made by Ald. VanderLeest, second by Ald. Jeffreys to approve the
resolution.
Ald. Jeffreys said it’s critical for
our area for the many people who ride the bus, including her husband who rides
the bus to UWGB everyday. She added that the funding
mechanism in Wisconsin is not very transit friendly.
Transit Director, Chris Phelps
addressed the committee with a presentation developed by Transit staff as well
as members of the Metropolitan Planning Organization which outlines the
benefits of transit in our community, the crossroads we face in the next few
years and a possible solution. He stated
that Green bay Metro provides access for residents of Green Bay and the
surrounding communities to jobs, to retail, recreation, entertainment, to
schools, to medical care, to job training, social services, rehabilitation
programs, meal sites and reduces the negative effects
of automobile use such as traffic congestion, delay, productivity losses and
production. He stated that the transit
budget estimate for 2009 is $8.2 million, with 57% ($4.6 Million) received in
funding from federal and state, and local funding from the City of Green Bay, DePere, Allouez, Ashwaubenon, Bellevue and the Oneida Tribe of Indians is
$2.1 million, fares bring in $1.2 million and other revenues, investment
income, etc. $156,000.
Mr. Phelps explained that $1.5 million
(18%) of their budget is provided by the City of Green Bay and they take that
contribution and leverage another $6.7 million by having transit in our
community. He stated that the financial
threats are the decline of federal and state funding and if the city reaches a population
figure of 200,000, $550,000 will be removed from the existing budget, since we
will be considered a big city in terms of transit funding. He anticipates this could happen with the
2011-2012 operating budget, following the 2010 census. Another threat is the
lack of local funds to match federal funding for transit capital and no
operating or capital reserve fund to cover budget shortfalls, as well as gas
prices being volatile and likely to rise in the near future. Mr. Phelps said we have 28 year-old busses on
the streets which will need to be replaced. The contractually-mandated labor
costs and benefits have an impact on the budget as well. He reviewed the Green
Bay Metropolitan statistical area boundary, which is derived by a federal
formula process at the Census bureau. Mr. Phelps reviewed the capital needs
which include replacing buses, a new fare collection system with swipe cards
and paratransit vehicles. He stated that currently we contract out with
Medi Vans for paratransit
services but on a federal level we are now able to purchase paratransit
vehicles and reduce our contractual costs.
Options to deal with anticipated
financial shortfall: do nothing, ask
local entities for more money,(which is not an option)
raise fares and cut service (which they did on January of this year) they cut
the final hour of service from 10:45 to 9:45, advocate for increased state and
federal assistance which he has been doing, and finally, establishment of a
Regional Transportation Authority, which is a tool used in many other states
across the country. He explained that an
RTA is an autonomous entity that has taxing and bonding authority. An RTA can be formed by two or more units of
government, and is typically governed by a board of directors made up of
members appointed by each participating entity. Mr. Phelps explained the
benefits of RTA’s stating it has the ability to secure necessary operating and
capital funding to maintain existing service, allows the system to expand to
meet the transportation needs of a growing community and aging population, the
ability to establish a cash reserve for transit system (to cover future capital
needs, fluctuating fuel costs, etc.) and minimizes or eliminates burden on
local property tax levy. As it’s own entity, the RTA will be given the ability to
either tax or contract with municipalities to provide those services that
transit does right now.
Mr. Phelps stated that they bill other
municipalities for services based on a mileage basis. Another option is to generate a sales or use tax. He stated that through the resolution
which was distributed, he is asking to embrace the concept of an RTA, which is
the evolution of our transit system into a much more regional and stand alone
type of entity which can address the needs of the community in a more proactive
and quicker way. He stated that 82% of Brown County residents live in the
transit service area right now. He
stated that they are looking at the option of establishing a second hub, in Ashwaubenon, which would serve the residents of the west
side much better. Mr. Phelps cited
achievements they have done the past few
years including placing bike racks on the front of buses, the How to Ride the
Bus video in many languages and on the website, the Google Transit Trip
Planner, the U Pass Program with UWGB and he talked with St. Norbert College
about bringing that service to them as well.
Mr. Phelps said they are working with Appleton Transit as well as
downtown employers to establish a partnership for a commuter service between
the business district in Green Bay with the business
district in downtown Appleton. They are
not looking at this service to Door County at this point in time.
Mr. Phelps summed up by stating that
the purpose of his presentation is to give the committee some background
information of where they are and what an RTA means. He opened the floor for questions. Ald. Weber
inquired about the U Pass program which Mr. Phelps responded that this program
was a partnership between the Student Government at UWGB and Metro as part of
their sustainability committee to offer a pass to students at UWGB where they
show their pass at the fare box and is at no cost to them and is paid for
through their student fees, adding that the program has been expanded to
faculty. Ald. Weber inquired about the
leveraging of $2.2 million, with Mr. Phelps responding that for a local
investment of $2.2 million, they are providing economic development jobs in
their neighborhood to the tune of $6.7 million. Ald. Weber expressed concern
about a new taxing authority being formed and inquired about representation
with appointed officials? Mr. Phelps
responded that that has not yet been determined,
adding that in many places they are appointed by a local municipality through a
process and said there would be equal proportional representation. Ald. Weber
said he would not be opposed to an RTA if it is done properly. Mr. Phelps said the RTA gives them the
opportunity to do things to help generate income as a department and to recoup
a little more money from their users and said there is substantial oversight
and responsibility to the stakeholders that serve and said there is also outclauses for communities that wish to join or no longer
wish to be part of it.
Ald. VanderLeest
stated that he would not be in support of this resolution unless there would be
elected officials such as Council members to be appointed to the Board. Mr.
Phelps said Green Bay would have a say in who is appointed to the Board. Ald. VanderLeest stated that if verbiage is added to state that
elected officials be appointed, he would support the amended resolution and
expressed concern about a taxing authority like the Technical College has. He
doesn’t want to see this change to benefit other communities unless it helps
Green Bay Metro. Mr. Phelps stated that
the resolution is conceptual and the language can be added in and said the
funding element would need to be developed locally. He indicated that Green Bay is 76% of the area, therefore Green Bay would have 76% of the control of
an RTA. Ald. VanderLeest stated that he doesn’t want
to lose autonomy or local control when there are issues, adding that he would
support the resolution with the addition of the language that he proposed. Mr.
Phelps said they could work with the Law Dept. to add the language that Ald. VanderLeest suggested.
Ald. Wiezbiskie stated that County,
City and other municipalities as well should have involvement with elected
officials. He inquired if an RTA will help or hinder the 200,000 population
mark in funding? Mr. Phelps responded that it depends on the tools used to fund
the RTA and said an RTA would allow us to become eligible for different parts
of federal money and said we are working on the federal level to help preserve
the operating money that we receive. Regarding expanding service, an RTA would
help us to expand the service in leveraging other programs,
an example is the service with Appleton. The service to Appleton that they are
proposing is work oriented rather than shopping. He congratulated Mr. Phelps on
a job well done. Ald. Jeffreys inquired
what our transit system will look like in 2013 if we do not establish an RTA? He responded that they will be looking at elimination
of more services and raises in fares or both, to make up the loss in operating
assistance projected. He indicated if we don’t deal with the funding issue, we
are looking at a much smaller and less viable transit service. Ald. Jeffreys
said she sees transportation much like education; a public good. She stated
that she would like to see elected representatives to serve on the RTA Board,
like the School Board. She feels that the resolution deserves a little tweaking
but is totally in support of this.
Ald. DeWane
expressed concern about creating a new tax and said the current resolution does
not address some of his concerns. Mr.
Phelps said it is generic in the fact that they went for the conceptual
approach and said we’re funded right now and this isn’t going to change, just
the mix and how we go about doing that is what changes. Ald. Wery stated that
he feels Mr. Phelps is one of the best Transit directors we have had and said
when the Governor set up his budget and proposed doing these RTA’s he named
Milwaukee, Madison and Appleton and Green Bay was left out. This is the reason he brought this forward.
Motion by Ald. VanderLeest, second by Ald. Weber to add the language “with
the RTA Board to be comprised of elected officials from the affected areas”.
Ald. Kocha
feels this item needs much more discussion and suggests leaving the resolution
as it stands. Ald. Jeffreys stated that she does not support the amendment to
the resolution and said the heart of the matter is that Green Bay has been left
out of the loop and this language will not resolve the matter. Ald. Weber supports the amendment and said
without that language he cannot support an RDA.
Ald. Nicholson stated that he does not support the idea of establishing
an RTA and giving power to individuals who are going to be raising taxes and
bonding without any control of the city, adding that this is how the city lost
the Water Dept. and Health Dept. He
feels this would be a mistake and will not support the resolution or the
amendment. Ald. Wiezbiskie suggested
different language for the amendment with Ald. VanderLeest
stating that he is firm on what his wishes are for the amendment. Ald.
Wiezbiskie then stated that he would not be interested in an appointment on
this board and would not support the resolution as it stands. Ald. DeWane stated
that he has more questions and wants to look into this further and will vote no
at this point to the resolution and the amendment. Ald. VanderLeest
explained the makeup of the Technical College Board and again said it’s better
served to have people who are elected to be on the
Board, with Ald. Jeffreys stating again that she would support officials being
elected to a Transit Authority. Ald. VanderLeest
stated that he doesn’t support Assembly Bill 75 since he is not familiar with
it.
Ald. VanderLeest
withdrew his previous motion and motioned to hold this item to gather more
information on the issue and on Assembly Bill 75 and to bring this back to the
next Advisory Committee meeting. Second by Ald. Wiezbiskie.
After brief discussion, it was decided
to hold a special Advisory Committee meeting on April 6th to review
this item in a timely manner.
A vote was taken on the motion to hold
this item for an Advisory Committee meeting on April 6th. Motion carried.
9.
Report from staff on CDBG and Home
Program funds.
Rob Strong stated that this is something
that Council has discussed many times over the years. He stated that these are
federal programs with considerable regulations and said this will be an
overview. Rob distributed a copy of the powerpoint which he indicated is
in very small print and will provide larger print copies to any Alderperson who
requests them. He introduced Krista Baeten, Community Development Specialist. Krista gave a powerpoint
on the Community Development Block Grant Program, reviewing the Primary
Objectives, Mandatory Requirements, Eligible Activities, Other Program
Requirements and Citizen Participation.
Rob stated that when they go to the Block Grant Review Subcommittee,
they have to be certain that they’ve met all the mandatory requirements. He said we are an entitlement community which
means that we will receive funds as long as the program is out there. Eligible Activity requires that 70% of the
program funds have to be used for projects that benefit low to moderate income
people. Rob explained that low to moderate income is a census area where at
least 50% of the households in that area are at or below 80% of the area’s
medium income, which for a family of four is $62,000. Rob stated that even
though some requirements are listed as not mandatory, doesn’t mean that HUD
isn’t on us for all of these things. Rob stated that Habitat for Humanity has
been a great partner for putting in replacement homes and we get to take credit
for that as a new home put in as a replacement.
Rob said that if we take down a duplex, if we use these funds, we are
required to replace it with two single units or another duplex.
Rob stated that a performance report
is submitted to HUD in May and he gives a summary of what is done over the past
year to Council members. At that time a
hearing must be held for the community to come in and ask if we are using the
funds in the way that is best for the city.
The other hearing must be held when they are preparing the next year’s
annual action plan where citizens can come forward with suggestions of how they
would like to see the funds used. Any
substantial change to the plans must be published with Rob stating that
anything over $25,000 moving of money would require public notice as well as a
meeting with the RDA. Another would be the deletion of a project, if an
original plan stated that a certain number of dollars will be spent on a
project and they decide to delete that project, a public notice must be
published. Rob said the program started
in 1976 and reviewed the funding allocations from 1999 to present stating that
in 1995 there was an administrative change and requests were received from
non-profit agencies. In 2004 the Council
did not want to fund the non-profit agencies and wanted the money to be used in
the impact areas, feeling it is much better use of the dollars. He stated that the Community Intern Program
started in 2005 is funded and considered a public service. Rob stated he will
be looking at the process and based on the past Council approval process, he
needs to get Council involved earlier.
Ald. Weber suggested coming as a special notice to RDA just like the
budget comes to Joint Finance and Personnel.
Krista reviewed the Home Program,
primary objectives, allocation of funds, mandatory
requirements and eligible activities.
She stated that we are entitled to funds through this program, the same
as the CDBG Program. Krista said we have 24 months after we’ve received notice
that we have been allocated the funds, to enter into an agreement with an
approved organization and then five years to pay out the home funds. Rob said
the only qualified CHODO, Community Housing
Development Organization right now is NeighborWorks
Green Bay. An annual performance report must be submitted to HUD. Rob stated that any if you use home funds to
demolish a property, construction must begin on the HOME project within 12
months. Ald. Vander Leest requested a list of projects that were funded in
2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 which Rob will provide. Rob discussed the Home Buyers
Assistance Program, which Ald. Weber said is a great program.
Krista stated that the city has been
allocated an additional $267, 161 of CDBG funds under the American Recovery &
Reinvestment Act of 2009. She indicated that they do not yet know what the
regulations are but did share that they want the funds to be used for
activities that encourage and maximize job creation and retention in the area,
adding that they want the money to be turned around really quickly. Rob added that they may shorten some of the
requirements for these funds and again said we’re an entitlement so that is the
amount we were allocated. Rob stated
that it may be a challenge since the money has to be turned around fast but
still create or retain jobs. Ald. Vander Leest inquired if alderpersons could
have some input into how they think is the best use of the money. Rob responded
that he will invite all Council members to submit their thoughts. Ald. Weber stated that staff should give the
recommendation, but believes that input is fine from the alderpersons. Rob will
send a memo to the Council members and said he doesn’t mind the input and will
be happy to take a look at projects they submit. Ald. De Wane stated that Rob
has a good feel for where this money should be spent and should be making the
recommendation.
Ald. Wery thanked Rob and Krista for
the presentation. Rob will send a link
to the presentation to the alderpersons.
Motion made by Ald. Vander Leest, second by Ald. De Wane to receive and
place on file. Motion carried.
10. Request
by Ald. Wiezbiskie to review and offer possible solutions to address late
night—into early morning City Council meetings.
Possibility of adjournment or recess to next available day or time.
Possible cutoff at 10:30 p.m. or at least by 12:30 a.m. to defray overtime
wages for building staff workers.
Ald. Wiezbiskie requested
to hold this item until the April 6th Advisory Committee
meeting. He also requested to have an
update on discussion by committee chairs regarding staggering the day of
committee meetings.
There being
no further business, motion made by Ald. Vander Leest, second by Ald.
Wiezbiskie to adjourn. Motion carried.