MINUTES

TRAFFIC COMMISSION

Monday, June 28, 2010

City Hall, Room 310

5:30 pm

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:  Commander Lisa Sterr, Chairperson Brad Hopp, Alderman Andy Nicholson (arrived at 5:50 pm), Mark Schuster, and Bryan Lipke

 

MEMBERS ABSENT:     Vice Chair Matt Kuepers (excused), Charles Karow (excused)

 

OTHERS PRESENT:      Alderman Thomas DeWane; Recording Secretary and Traffic Engineer Dave Hansen

 

GENERAL BUSINESS

 

1.         Approval of the minutes from the May 24, 2010 Traffic Commission meeting.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that minutes from the May 24, 2010 Traffic Commission meeting be approved.

 

The remaining items were taken in the following order:  10, 3, 9, 6, 2, 4-5, 7-8, and 11-21.

 

INITIAL REQUESTS

 

2.         Request by Ald. Wiezbiskie to install a STOP sign at the exit of the new baseball complex on Finger Rd. 

 

            Dave Hansen, City Traffic Engineer, stated that the work order to install the STOP sign has already been issued.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that the request to install a STOP sign at the exit of the new baseball complex on Finger Rd be received and placed on file since the sign installation work order has been issued.

 

3.         Request by Sara Sand (256 Alpine Drive) to install a BLIND CHILD AREA sign near her residence. 

 

            D. Hansen stated that he spoke with Sara Sand about this request.  She has a 10-year old son who is completely blind.  If sign is installed, it will go on the list of special warning signs reviewed for need every 2 years.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried to install BLIND CHILD AREA signs near 256 Alpine Drive.

 

4.         Request by the AIDS Resource Center of Wisconsin (445 South Adams Street) to adjust the NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER zone on the north side of Chicago Street at Adams Street. 

 

D. Hansen stated that moving the existing NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER sign closer to Adams St would allow more parking for people visiting the center.  The existing NO PARKING zone is more than long enough to accommodate proper intersection sight distance, and by shortening it up to 40-ft from Adams St, intersection sight distance is still maintained.

 

A discussion took place about the length of time that the existing zone has been in place, that one vehicle should be able to park between the NO PARKING sign and the existing Chicago St driveway after sign relocation, and that the center is considering removing the Chicago St driveway in order to add more onsite parking stalls.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster and seconded by B. Lipke that, on a 90-day trial, to:

 

            A.  Remove the NO PARKING zone on the north side of Chicago Street from Adams Street to a point 90 feet east of Adams Street.

 

            B.  Establish a NO PARKING zone on the north side of Chicago Street from Adams Street to a point 40 feet east of Adams Street.

 

            B. Hopp voted no.  Motion carried.

 

5.         Request by Ald. Kocha to establish a 2-HOUR 7 AM TO 4 PM parking zone in the 1100 block of Crooks Street. 

 

            D. Hansen stated that Ald. Kocha has requested to postpone this item until the next meeting.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that the request to establish a 2-HOUR 7 AM TO 4 PM parking zone in the 1100 block of Crooks Street be postponed until the July 26, 2010 Traffic Commission meeting.

 

6.         Request by the New Community Shelter (301 Mather Street) to establish a NO PARKING LOADING ONLY zone on the south side of Mather Street in front of the shelter. 

 

D. Hansen stated that the New Community Shelter is in the process of constructing an addition onto their building and modifying their parking lot.  Due to their building expansion, the distance from the drop off and pick up zone will increase.  The shelter will install an ADA curb ramp near the front entrance of their building at the carriage walk.  The purpose of the curb ramp is to facilitate wheel chairs from vehicles that are loading or unloading passengers staying at the shelter.  D. Hansen provided a letter he received from Terri Refsguard, Executive Director of the New Community Shelter, stating that the shelter has no intention of requesting a midblock crossing at the new curb ramp. 

 

A discussion took place about curb cut construction costs being paid for by the shelter, about other building access points post construction, if Mather St is wide enough for the loading/unloading of disabled passengers, and about nearby land uses.

 

Questions about the shelter addition and space utilization were asked of shelter representatives that were present at the meeting.

 

            A motion was made by B. Lipke, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that, on a 90-day trial, to establish a NO PARKING LOADING ONLY zone on the south side of Mather Street from a point 70 feet east of Alma Street to a point 110 feet east of Alma Street.

 

7.         Request by Ald. Zima, on behalf of area residents, to consider changing the 2-WAY YIELD condition on Waverly Place and South Norwood Avenue to a 4-WAY STOP condition.

 

Items 7 and 8 were discussed and acted upon together since they are related. 

           

D. Hansen showed a map of the neighborhood, indicating locations and directions of all intersection STOP and YIELD signs.  He stated that a resident called him requesting multi-way STOP conditions in order to slow down motorists on S Norwood Ave.  He referred the caller to the City’s Neighborhood Traffic Calming Policy and Ald. Zima.  D. Hansen stated that at each intersection, 2 crashes have occurred in the past 3 years, none of which were correctable by an ALL-WAY STOP condition. 

 

A discussion took place that S Norwood Ave is being used as a cut-thru to Ninth St for those motorists not wanting to wait for the Lombardi/Ashland traffic signal.

 

D. Hansen stated that he is hesitant to recommend studying the intersection for ALL-WAY STOP control given that the traffic counts will not even come close to warrant levels, the high number of YIELD and STOP signs at nearby intersections, the low crash history, and that the request was made for speed control (which is against the FHWA Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) to install STOP signs for speed control).

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by Ald. Nicholson, and carried that the request to consider changing the 2-WAY YIELD condition on Waverly Place and South Norwood Avenue to a 4-WAY STOP condition be denied.

 

8.         Request by Ald. Zima, on behalf of area residents, to consider changing the 2-WAY STOP condition on Victory Boulevard and South Norwood Avenue to a 4-WAY STOP condition.

 

            See Item 7 for discussion summary.

 

A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by Ald. Nicholson, and carried that the request to consider changing the 2-WAY STOP condition on Victory Boulevard and South Norwood Avenue to a 4-WAY STOP condition be denied.

 

9.         Request by Randy LeDocq of Masterpiece Construction to change the 2-WAY alley between Dousman/Maple/Chestnut/Hubbard to a 1-WAY northbound alley.

 

D. Hansen stated that the site located at the southeast corner of Dousman St and Maple St is proposed to be redeveloped as a Subway restaurant with a drive-thru lane that would exit onto Dousman St next to the 2-way alley.  D. Hansen stated that he was concerned initially with the mixture of ingress and egress traffic of the 2-way alley combined with the egress only of the drive-thru exit combined into one curb opening.  Discussions between R. LeDocq and D. Hansen led to the request for a 1-way alley.  Residents that use that alleyway spoke in favor of a 1-way northbound alley at a prior meeting.  D. Hansen stated that a re-signing of the alleyway for 1-WAY traffic would be required.

 

A brief discussion took place about potential impacts to nearby Save-A-Lot store and the parking lot behind Old Fort Square.

 

            A motion was made by Cmdr. Sterr, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that, on a 90-day trial to begin after redevelopment commences on the parcel located at 515-517 Dousman Street, to:

 

            A.  Remove 2-WAY traffic in the alley between Dousman/Maple/Chestnut/Walnut

 

            B.  Establish 2-WAY traffic in the alley between Walnut/Maple/Chestnut/Hubbard

 

            C.  Establish 1-WAY traffic in the alley between Dousman/Maple/Chestnut/Hubbard

 

POSTPONED FROM PREVIOUS MEETING

 

10.       Request by Ald. DeWane to allow overnight parking between the months of March and September. 

 

Ald. DeWane stated that the request was prompted from a resident who received an overnight parking citation.  The item can be received and placed on file.

 

            A motion was made by M. Schuster, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that the request to allow overnight parking between the months of March and September be received and placed on file.

 

11.       Request by Ald. Theisen for STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS WITHIN CROSSWALK signs at four intersections: 

            (1) East Mason Street and Hartung Street

            (2) Webster Avenue and Grignon Street

            (3) Webster Avenue and Emilie Street

            (4) Webster Avenue and Eliza Street

 

            (1). D. Hansen stated there is a new STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS sign that is intended for over-the-road placement.  Given the high volume of traffic at this location, the vertical in-road type sign is not recommended due to the likelihood that the sign will be damaged regularly from vehicles.  Overhead mast arms with pedestrian warning signs exist at this location.  D. Hansen recommended removing the 2 of 4 “WHEN FLASHING” signs on the overhead arms and replacing them with the new horizontal STATE LAW signs.

 

            A discussion took place about the length of the flashing warning signs at this location, that the flash time was too long.  Concern was that most pedestrians and bicyclists can cross in less time, leaving each blinker sign flashing when it doesn’t need to, which leads to motorist confusion on whether a pedestrian crossing is pending.  D. Hansen explained how flash times are computed, and that extra time was programmed at this location due to the high volume of E Mason St traffic, not providing immediate gaps for crossing pedestrians. 

 

            Discussion continued about using countdown pedestrian signals.  D. Hansen stated that those are only allowed at signalized locations (flashing warning signs are not considered signalized).  Discussion continued about alternate messages that could be used on the overhead signs.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried to remove 2 of 4 “WHEN FLASHING” signs on the overhead arms on East Mason Street at Hartung Street and replace them with horizontal STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIAN signs.

 

            (2)(3) and (4).  D. Hansen stated that vehicle and pedestrian counts should be taken before a decision is made, since the requested signs should only be placed at locations with high pedestrian-vehicle activity.

 

            A discussion took place about the existing traffic count information available but that pedestrian counts are also needed, and if traffic counts could be finished by the next meeting.

 

            A second motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that the request for STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS WITHIN CROSSWALK signs at Webster/Grignon, Webster/Emilie, and Webster/Eliza be referred to staff for study.

 

12.       Request by Ald. Theisen to consider establishing parking restrictions on the 700 block of South Madison Street.  (Original motion to receive and place on file since it is anticipated that Ald. Theisen will place a new request for 4-HOUR parking to encompass a larger area.) 

 

            D. Hansen stated that Ald. Theisen would like to try a 4-HOUR zone in the short area just north of the church, and if that works out, then expansion of the 4-HOUR zone into other areas could be considered.  A NO PARKING HERE TO CORNER zone was also requested by Ald. Theisen via phone call to D. Hansen.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by M. Schuster, and carried that, on a 90-day trial, to:

 

            A.  Establish a 4-HOUR 7 AM TO 4 PM parking zone on the west side of South Madison Street from a point 215 feet north of Lawe Street to a point 50 feet south of Cass Street.

 

            B.  Establish a NO PARKING zone on the west side of South Madison Street from a point 50 feet south of Cass Street to Cass Street.

 

13.       Request by Ald. Sortwell, on behalf of Dallas Gunderson (1831 Smith Street), to convert the southbound curb lane on Webster Avenue approaching East Mason Street into a right-turn only lane. 

 

            A brief discussion took place about the number of lanes on the southbound approach.

 

            D. Hansen summarized the memo he prepared for the Commission:

 

1.    Although creating an exclusive southbound right-turn lane has a positive effect on the Level of Service and decreases the wait times for southbound to westbound right-turning motorists, it produces many negative effects on other movements at the intersection.

 

2.    The southbound thru movement would realize an increase in wait time, reduction in Level of Service, and an increase in southbound sideswipe crashes. 

 

3.    The northbound to westbound left turn would also be negatively impacted by the southbound curb lane conversion in that available gaps in southbound traffic would make it more difficult than it already is to make a permissive left turn, thereby likely increasing left-turn angle crashes.

 

4.    It is not recommended to reduce the number of lanes from 2 to 1 in one location within the 6.5 mile length of Webster Ave, a major arterial.

 

5.    No changes are recommended to the southbound lane configuration.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried that the request to convert the southbound curb lane on Webster Avenue approaching East Mason Street into a right-turn only lane be denied.

 

REFFERED BACK FROM COUNCIL

           

14.       That the request for a sidewalk study on Farlin Avenue from Danz Avenue to Turek Street be received and placed on file with a recommendation to the Improvement & Service Committee not to pursue sidewalk installation at this time.

 

            A brief discussion took place that the pedestrian volumes are very low and that it would be difficult to install sidewalk on the south side of Farlin Ave.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried to approve the initial motion that the request for a sidewalk study on Farlin Avenue from Danz Avenue to Turek Street be received and placed on file with a recommendation to the Improvement & Service Committee not to pursue sidewalk installation at this time.

 

TERMINATION OF TRIAL PERIODS

 

15.       That, on a 90-day trial, to establish a NO PARKING LOADING ONLY zone on the north side of Chicago Street from a point 135 feet east of Adams Street to a point 180 feet east of Adams Street.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that a NO PARKING LOADING ONLY zone on the north side of Chicago Street from a point 135 feet east of Adams Street to a point 180 feet east of Adams Street be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

16.       That, on a 90-day trial, to remove the 2-HOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 7 AM - 7 PM parking zone on the east side of Adams Street from a point 80 feet north of Chicago Street to a point 245 feet north of Chicago Street.

 

            A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that the 2-HOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 7 AM - 7 PM parking zone on the east side of Adams Street from a point 80 feet north of Chicago Street to a point 245 feet north of Chicago Street be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

17.       That, on a 90-day trial, to establish a 2-HOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 7 AM - 7 PM parking zone on the east side of Adams Street from a point 120 feet north of Chicago Street to a point 245 feet north of Chicago Street.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that a 2-HOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 7 AM - 7 PM parking zone on the east side of Adams Street from a point 120 feet north of Chicago Street to a point 245 feet north of Chicago Street be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

18.       That, on a 90-day trial, to remove the 1-WAY YIELD condition on Liberty Street at Saint Agnes Drive.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that the 1-WAY YIELD condition on Liberty Street at Saint Agnes Drive be removed and adopted by ordinance.

 

19.       That, on a 90-day trial, to establish a 1-WAY STOP condition on Liberty Street at Saint Agnes Drive.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that a 1-WAY STOP condition on Liberty Street at Saint Agnes Drive be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

20.       That, on a 90-day trial, to establish a NO RIGHT ON RED WHEN PEDESTRIANS ARE PRESENT condition at East Mason Street and South Webster Avenue.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that a NO RIGHT ON RED WHEN PEDESTRIANS ARE PRESENT condition at East Mason Street and South Webster Avenue be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

21.       That, on a 90-day trial, to establish a NO PARKING zone on both sides of Mech Street from Basten Street north to a point 60 feet north of Basten Street.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by Cmdr. Sterr, and carried that a NO PARKING zone on both sides of Mech Street from Basten Street north to a point 60 feet north of Basten Street be established and adopted by ordinance.

 

There being no other items of discussion, a motion was made by Ald. Nicholson, seconded by B. Lipke, and carried to adjourn from the regular orders of business.  The meeting ended at 6:12 P.M.  The next Traffic Commission meeting is scheduled for Monday, July 26, 2010, in Room 310 at 5:30 P.M.