MINUTES

FINANCE COMMITTEE

Tuesday, August 10, 2010
City Hall, Room 604

Following Personnel which starts at 5:00 p.m., approximately 6:00 p.m.

           

MEMBERS:  Chairman Tony Theisen, Steven Deneys, Guy Zima and and Patrick Buckley

 

1.    Roll Call. 

 

Roll call was taken and all were present.

 

2.    Approval of the Agenda.

 

Chairman Theisen suggested the committee take up items 9 and 10 first, following item 3, and all agreed.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Deneys, seconded by Ald. Buckley, and carried to approve the agenda as amended.

 

3.    Approval of the minutes of the Finance Committee meeting of July 6, 2010.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Deneys, seconded by Ald. Buckley, and carried to approve the minutes of the Finance Committee meeting of July 6, 2010.

 

9.    Request by the Finance Committee to discuss and potentially approve waiving some of the fees the City incurred for the LZ Lambeau event held on May 21-23, 2010.

 

Ald. Theisen asked that comments be limited to new information regarding the topic.  Ald. Zima objected because committee is supposed to be an open forum for discussion.

 

Ald. Deneys asked if there is any new information on the item since the last committee meeting. 

 

The Mayor addressed the committee.  He explained a proposal the City is considering regarding the outstanding LZ Lambeau fees the City incurred.  The proposal he supports is to have the Green Bay Area Chamber of Commerce cover $4,000, Brown County cover $4,370, the Green Bay Packers cover $30,000, and the City of Green Bay cover $10,000 to be taken from contingency.

 

Ald. Deneys made a motion to approve the Mayor’s proposal and have the City of Green Bay waive $10,000 in fees to be taken from contingency.

 

Ald. Buckley asked if the Stadium District was approached about this deal.  The Mayor said it was not.  He believes they may participate in a credit of $5,500.

 

Ald. DeWane stated the Stadium District had already given $10,000 and are considering an additional $7,500 on their upcoming agenda.

 

Ald. Buckley seconded the motion.

 

Ald. Deneys asked if the $7,500 would go towards this proposal, or if it would be in addition to the proposal.  Ald. Theisen stated he believes it would be in addition to the proposal.

 

Finance Director, Dawn Foeller, stated the final balance in City fees is $547.86 if the proposal is approved.

Ald. Zima expressed his opposition to contributing money to the LZ Lambeau event.  He strongly feels the sponsorship should come from those that profited from high concession prices.  LZ Lambeau made the decision to move forward with the event, and Ald. Zima does not believe in forced contributions from City taxpayers.

 

A vote was taken, and the motion carried to approve waiving $10,000 of the fees the City incurred for the LZ Lambeau event held on May 21-23, 2010 by using the contingency account.  The motion carried 3-1 with Ald. Zima voting no.

 

10.  Request by the Finance Committee to review the operating budget for the roller coaster ride at Bay Beach.

 

Finance Director, Dawn Foeller, revised the historical information to include six month’s worth of administrative staff and two park staff members for maintenance.  The revised Zippin Pippin operating budget now includes the two managers as well as a police officer in place of a security guard.

 

Given the changes, Ald. Theisen asked if the ride is still on track to pay for itself.  Ms. Foeller explained that the addition of a police officer pushes the budget into a negative status.  She ran different scenarios using both a police officer and security guard to account for different hours of operation.

 

Ald. Theisen explained that City Council does not typically micromanage security for Bay Beach.  Such a decision is that of the Police Chief, so he expects Chief of Police, Jim Arts, to manage the type and amount of security for the park.  Chief Arts explained he will submit a budget that includes coverage for the entire City, including the Zippin Pippin.

 

Ald. DeWane commented on the inability to really know what the environment will be like once the Zippin Pippin is operating.  All the City can do is rely on conservative projections and then wait and see the accuracy of those projections.

 

Ald. Buckley stated he prefers to see the police officer included in the budget so the City is not caught shorthanded.

 

Ald. Theisen reiterated the Police Department will provide a budget based on its needs.  Ald. Buckley said he thinks it should come out of the Parks Department budget.

 

Chief Arts said Bay Beach currently has two community police officers and a response team that is sent to the park as needed.  He does not want to allocate a set number of hours for his staff at Bay Beach.  He would rather have the flexibility in his use of staff at Bay Beach.  Any increase in problems at the park will be addressed by the Police Department when the roller coaster opens up. 

 

Ald. Theisen brought up the increase in incidents at Bay Beach during Teen Night and asked the Chief if he sees any comparison between the Teen Night demographic and the anticipated increase in the teenage demographic with the installation of the roller coaster.  Chief Arts said there will be groups of families in addition to teenagers, so it is a very different dynamic from Teen Night.

 

Ald. Buckley is concerned about one bad incident happening and the effect it could have on revenue.  He thinks there should be a police presence once the roller coaster opens.

 

Ald. Zima believes security at Bay Beach is a paramount concern because the demographic will change with the roller coaster.  Most people agree the roller coaster will draw more teenagers that traditionally require more security.

 

Ald. Zima would also like the City to establish an enterprise fund to follow a more cost accounting approach to ensure enough revenue is generated to cover expenses.  This requires setting a realistic budget that accounts for all staff needed to operate the park.  The Zippin Pippin is an attraction meant to draw people to Green Bay, so security is essential.

 

Ald. Deneys asked Chief Arts about the current number of calls at Bay Beach.  The Chief said it is very minimal, maybe one or two calls.  He would like to see a budgeted figure for security and let the Chief determine the protection needed.  Any police calls that go over budget would be charged to the Parks Department.

 

Ald. Theisen wanted to clarify that the Bay Beach budget is meant to determine what the pay back is for the roller coaster.  The number of officers decided for this budget will not impact the Chief’s budget.  His budget will include so many officers, and he will have the discretion to assign them to various locations as he sees fit.

 

Ald. DeWane does not agree with charging the Parks Department for policing.  All this budget is meant to do is give a realistic idea as to the cost of the Zippin Pippin.

 

Ald. Zima wants to make sure this budget shows true revenues and expenses related to the roller coaster and Bay Beach.  The City needs to adjust its rates to cover its costs.  This is an acceptable budget that he is willing to adopt as a benchmark.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Buckley.  Motion went under discussion.

 

Mayor Schmitt does not believe this is a realistic budget because it is not the way the City does its accounting.  He feels Ald. Zima is doing everything he can to discredit the ride.   No one is recommending a security officer but Ald. Zima.

 

Ald. DeWane drew attention to Ald. Buckley also agreeing with security.

 

Ald. Buckley stated he wants to see the roller coaster succeed and part of that is getting a realistic accounting picture.

 

Mayor Schmitt believes Ald. Zima is changing the accounting principles the City has accepted for many years because of the Zippin Pippin.

 

Ald. Zima believes they are inaccurate.

 

Ald. Theisen stated Ald. Zima never disagreed when he was on the Parks Committee.

 

Ald. Theisen asked what the purpose of adopting this budget would be. 

 

Ald. Zima stated the purpose is to get a cost accounting basis to determine the costs and the profits of Bay Beach.

 

Ald. Theisen said that is the purpose of the Parks budget.

 

The motion carried to receive and place on file the operating budget for the roller coaster ride at Bay Beach.  The members accept the budget proposed as the forecast for the Zippin Pippin and the City will continue to do the cost accounting of Bay Beach throughout 2011.

 

5.    Request by the Finance Director, on behalf of the City Assessor, to cancel certain real and personal property taxes. 

 

City Assessor, Russ Schwandt, appeared before the committee to talk them through the cancellation requests.  The City sends out a statement of personal property to the business owner every year asking them to declare the value of their personal property.  If the City does not receive the statement back, the Assessor will set the value based on what he thinks the value is and/or based on the previous year’s assessment.  The Assessor will follow up with another letter to the nonresponsive business owners explaining the value assigned to their personal property.  Once Brown County sends out the tax bill, the City usually hears back from a representative of the business explaining they were no longer in business.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Deneys, and carried to approve the cancellation of certain real and personal property taxes.

 

6.    Request by the Finance Director, on behalf of the City Assessor, to review 2010 Board of Review and completion of the commercial revaluation.

 

Mr. Schwandt explained that this year’s Board of Review consisted of 13 cases with only 2 of those cases having a reduction in value.  One was a sale and the other presented information the Assessor’s office agreed with.  Overall, there was a reduction of $300,000.

 

The City also conducted a commercial review and raised approximately $13 million and devalued approximately $9 million, resulting in an increase of $4.5 million.

 

Last year the Department of Revenue said the City was at approximately 89% of market value for commercial property.  Now, the City is close to 100% compliance for both residential and commercial property.

 

Ald. Theisen asked Mr. Schwandt if there is a reduction in the assessed value if a property owner is unable to sell for a certain price.  He had heard that that serves as proof the property is worth less than its assessment.  Mr. Schwandt explained the City does see that as more people are refinancing.  They do reviews based on that scenario, but they try to maintain uniformity and fairness in assessments among similar neighboring properties.  They also take into consideration the percentage of sales within market value.  If 20% of sales are below the assessed value, that would mean 80% are selling close to the assessed value, in which case the value of those 20% would not be lowered.  The assessor’s office will review those properties’ sales that come in significantly below the assessed value. 

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Buckley, and carried to receive and place on file.

 

8.    Report of the Purchasing Agent: 

 

a)    Award Bond Counsel Services to the low vendor, Foley & Lardner LLP for an annual average amount of $10,000.  Services purchased as needed.

 

A Request for Proposal (RFP) was issued by the Purchasing Department.  Nine vendors were issued the RFP and two responded - Foley & Lardner LLP and Quarles & Brady.   Foley & Lardner LLP was the lowest bidder and has been bond counsel for the City for almost 18 years.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Deneys, and carried to approve.

 

b)    Award Computer Replacement Equipment to the low bidder, Core BTS or PDS for the estimated amount of $18,829.

 

There are two competitive bids off the State Contract, Core BTS and Paragon Development Systems (PDS).  There is a huge fluctuation in pricing for these items and prices are verified prior to each order.  Purchasing asks for flexibility in awarding the contract considering the two vendors are similar in pricing.  The award will go to the lowest bidder at the time of order.

 

Ald. Zima asks that Purchasing report back to committee the final award and cost comparison.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Buckley, and carried to approve.  The Purchasing Department is to report back to committee.

 

c)    Request approval to order twelve, 2011 squad vehicles from the low bidder Ewald Ford, for the amount of $262,056.

 

The Police Department replaces one third of the Squad Car fleet every year.  The 2011 units would typically be ordered in January, but Ford Motor Company is offering a $500 incentive per unit for orders booked by September 7, 2010.  Therefore, the Police Department asks that the committee approve the purchase in order to utilize the early order incentive for a total savings of $6,000.  The money is to be taken from the 2010 general fund reserve, which is to be restored to the 2011 budget.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima, seconded by Ald. Buckley, and carried to approve.

 

4.    Request by the Comptroller to present the City’s 2009 Annual Financial Report and the Management Letter.  

 

Tom Karman, a partner of Schenck, appeared before the committee to answer any questions the members may have.  He explained the City received a clean opinion on the financial statements. 

 

He drew attention to a new accounting standard that will apply to the City for 2011.  The Governmental Accounting Standards Board is trying to better define how governmental entities report their fund balance.  There will be five different classifications for fund balances to make them more easily understandable to financial statement users. 

 

Mr. Karman referenced the City’s Special Revenue Funds.  As of right now, those funds are tax levied monies or user fees with no outside restrictions requiring those monies be used for those purposes.   This standard will require formal Council action to designate that those revenues be maintained in those operations.  If that action does not happen, then those funds should go away and the money be maintained in the General Fund.  The drawback with having those funds in the General Fund is losing out on the $2 million the City receives in expenditure restraint from the State.

 

Ms. Foeller asked if this also applies to Capital Project Funds.  Mr. Karman said most of that money is either bond proceeds or special assessment collections from capital projects, so those are essentially segregated out for those purposes.  Ms. Foeller said she is concerned about the capital replacement funds.  Mr. Karman recommended formal action to maintain those funds as well if the money going into those funds is tax money.

 

If the City wants to keep its accounting the way it is, then formal Council action will be required to maintain those funds and meet the requirements of those standards.  Action to commit these funds needs to be done before the end of the 2011 fiscal year.

 

Ms. Foeller suggested bringing this action before Council with the adoption of the 2012 budget.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Zima and seconded by Ald. Buckley.  Motion went under discussion.

 

Ald. Zima asked Mr. Karman his opinion about the establishment of an enterprise fund for Bay Beach.  Mr. Karman said he typically does not make those recommendations.  The biggest thing to consider when setting up an enterprise fund is if we truly want to compare the revenues of that operation with the cost of the operation. 

 

Ms. Foeller suggested a special revenue fund as an option.

 

Ald. Zima sees an advantage to an enterprise fund to make sure the revenues are supporting the expenses.  Mr. Karman said he sees Bay Beach as a place where enterprise accounting would work.  It has not been done in the past because Bay Beach is a supporter of the General Fund.  Any profit generated by Bay Beach is transferred to the General Fund to support other City services.

 

Motion to receive and place on file carried.

 

Ms. Foeller asked if the establishment of an enterprise fund for Bay Beach could have a designation that any net profit generated be allocated back to the general fund.

 

Mr. Karman said opening an enterprise fund is like a separate business where all assets, debt, etc. is reported on that fund’s balance sheet.

 

Ald. Zima wants to make sure the City is charging the appropriate price per ride, so he wants to ensure that all revenues are matched to expenses. 

 

Ms. Foeller suggested she come back to committee at a later date with the pros and cons to establishing an enterprise fund for Bay Beach.

 

7.    Request by the Planning Director to present to the committee the recommendation to retain the chassis of the weights and measures truck but replace the body of that truck.  The cost to repair the truck is $3,500 and the purchase and installation of a new body for the truck is $20,500.  Source of funds requested will be a utilizing the equipment replacement of $6,000 and a transfer from salaries and fringes for $18,000 to cover the cost of this purchase.

 

Planning Director, Rob Strong, reviewed the problems with the weights and measures truck that had been addressed at the committee meeting held back in June.  He reviewed the various options to ascertain the most cost effective means to assure the City retains a weights and measures truck suitable for serving the community.  He requested Purchasing obtain quotes for a replacement truck, a new body with tanks and a trailer mounted unit. 

 

Upon reviewing all information and consulting with Purchasing, Risk Management, and the City garage superintendent, Mr. Strong concluded the best option is to retain the chassis but replace the body of the truck.  The truck has used only half of its 9,000 hour life and repairs to the truck are minimal (removing surface rust, rear brakes, and tires).  Installing a new body and tanks is a feasible alternative.  The intention of purchasing a 1-ton diesel truck was to last long enough for two bodies.

 

He requests that the Finance Committee approve the option of repairing the existing truck for an amount of $3,500 and purchasing and installing a new body and tanks in the amount of $20,500.  He also requests that $18,000 of Regular Salaries be transferred to the Equipment Replacement account to cover such costs.

 

Dan Kryzanek wants to see the City completely replace the truck.  It is 14 years old and in poor rusting condition.  Additionally, it is a safety hazard because of its electrical discharges.  Though it has been fixed, he feels it is only a temporary fix, and the electrical problems will arise in the future.  Given the money the City paid for the truck and the additional expenses it is considering for repairs, Mr. Kryzanek believes it is in the City’s best interest to completely replace the truck.  Otherwise, he envisions revisiting the problem in a couple years.

 

Ald. DeWane suggested selling advertising space on the vehicle as a means of reducing the cost.  He has been involved with the weights and measures truck for a few years and believes taking a piecemeal approach at repairing the truck is not cost efficient when the condition continues to erode and the problems are revisited. 

 

Dan Kryzanek explained he has been approached by various companies interested in advertising.  He has a relationship with all the gas stations in the City, and selling them advertising space would help bring the cost of a new vehicle down.

 

Ald. Buckley is concerned about a conflict of interest from advertising one company and not another.  Dan Kryzanek does not see a conflict if all companies are interested.

 

Mr. Strong does not feel a new truck is necessary and would prefer to do the necessary repairs to save money.  He has consulted with the City garage superintendent who has inspected the truck, and repairing the vehicle is a viable option to fix the problems.  The truck has only used about half of its life.

 

Ald. Zima feels it is more cost effective to purchase a new truck.  There comes a certain time when one should stop putting money into a vehicle.

 

Ald. Theisen would like the current truck to be used by another department in the City if they are going to purchase a new one.

 

Ald. Deneys made a motion to hold the item until the next Finance meeting to see if other departments will have a use for the current weights and measures truck.  Ald. Zima seconded.  Motion carried.

 

A motion was made by Ald. Deneys, seconded by Ald. Theisen, and carried to adjourn.  The meeting adjourned at 9:07 p.m.

 

 

 

2010 Contingency Fund

$51,300.08